Monday, August 31, 2009

You Have To Start Somewhere

Yesterday, 8/30/09, I created this blog as a way of sharing, organizing and hopefully expanding my knowledge of my Halter ancestors. Much of the information I have comes from the research of others. Discussions of the more recent history of Ohio Halters will have more of my own recollections.

The map below shows the area around the neighboring villages of Schirrhein and Schirrhoffen. This is the starting point for Ludwig Halter when he immigrated to Ohio around 1832, with his wife, son, daughter-in-law and grandson. Depending on the fortunes of war, these villages were at times Germ
an and at other times French. My relatives arrived in Ohio as Germans. Today, the villages are part of France.



Future posts will include more specific information about the early Halters. I also have a number of photographs from the 1920's to today that will be part of these posts.

If you have any information that you think might be relevant to my family history, please share it with me.


5 comments:

  1. Great idea Dad! I look forward to learning a thing or two about the Halters from the old days.

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  2. Mike...who gets first dibs on naming our son Ludwig??

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  3. Ludwig von Halter...I like it.

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  4. Doh...I shouldn't have brought it up...

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  5. The story within the "van Britsom"family is that Petrus Bernardus van Britsom was born as Petrus Bernardus de Broeck. His birth certificate confirms this. When Franciscus married Amelia, he adopted both Petrus and Carolus. Carolus is thought to be his child, he was born two months before they got married in 30 Jan 1890. Now Oma de Broeck had of course a very good explanation of how things happened and who the father was of Petrus. --Quote-- "Het was een sterke man van de kermis" --Unquote-- translated "It was the strong man from the circus". Now we all know that the strong man in the circus always has a "Dumb-bell" The dutch translation for that is "Halter" (remember this for later in the story).

    When Carl and Bonnie were here and when Divine and me were in the States, we started to notice that there were a lot of similarities between all of us. Even though we came together by Amelia de Broeck. So we started to wonder if Franciscus might be the father of Petrus, but being in the 1880's they thought different about un-wed mothers. They kept it silent. We decided to have a Paternal 46 Y-Chromosome DNA test done. Carl, Martin and myself took part in it.

    For me it was easy. even though i have the name (from my mother) my actual paternal line goes thru the Denee line (please don't tell anybody). So i ended up of matching (within 7 generations) with somebody in England named Eric Silva Jones or his forefather, Griffith Jones died 1754. It's highly likely that Eric Silva Jones and me have the same great......greatgrandfather. For Carl matched with a certain John Presson within 12generations. It's highly unlikely that they are related. Now it was Martin's turn. he matched with someone within 5 generations. This is a match!! That would put it around 1880 where the two families join. The person name is Patsy L Halter (her maiden name)living in the USA. She had her brother do the DNA test. Now the Halters come from Belgium/France in the neighbourhood of Oma de Broeck and they immigrated to the USA around 1880-1890. Thru DNA we now know who Oma de broeck liked, at least his last name. So a lot of persons who are named "van Britsom" today, should actually be named "Halter". So oma de Broeck did actually name the father, it just took 130 years and DNA to figure it out. This all took place around 1883-1887 in IJzendijke, Zeeland, The Netherlands and Douai, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France. My email is MLD46@hotmail.com

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    Mick van BritsomMarch 19, 2024 at 11:26 AM
    anybody reconize names/dates or anything please respond thanks in advance regards Mick van Britsom

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